DNA Testing Annihilates Greek Propaganda 
        By Victor Bivell
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        Governments are not supposed to tell you who you are. That's a job 
          for your parents. But in Greece the government does tell you who you 
          are, and if you disagree you are in big trouble and can be seen as an 
          enemy of the state. As a person of Macedonian heritage whose family 
          is from the Greek side of the 1912 modern day border between Greece 
          and Macedonia, the Greek government gives me two choices for my identity. 
          I can be Greek and claim direct descendance from the glorious ancient 
          Greeks; or I can be Macedonian, but if I do that then I am not really 
          a Macedonian as I have, according to the government, no connection to 
          the glorious ancient Macedonians and I am really a ‘Slav', a ‘Slavic 
          speaker' and a ‘Slavophone' whose predecessors came from a swamp somewhere 
          in the Ukraine or Belarus, supposedly sometime in the sixth or seventh 
          century. These are my only choices. Just as laughable is that there 
          are academics, some of them self-confessed philhellenes who hang out 
          at places like Oxford and Cambridge universities, who also peddle this 
          stuff. 
        To me, it never rang true. I wondered if it may be true, but I couldn't 
          bring myself to believe it. Firstly, because I could see that it was 
          propaganda: a convenient lie by which the Greek government tries to 
          justify its 1912 invasion of Ottoman Macedonia and its annexation of 
          about 34,000 square kilometres of some of the best real estate in Europe. 
          Telling the world that "Macedonia is Greek" hides the Greek government's 
          massive dispossession of this land from village people who were born 
          in Macedonia and had never lived anywhere else. Telling the world that 
          "Macedonians are Greeks" hides the Greek government's theft of these 
          people's indigenous Macedonian identity so it can give it to Greeks, 
          most of whom were transplanted from Turkey to Macedonia in the 1920s 
          but somehow are now the only true descendants of the ancient Macedonians. 
        
        The second reason I couldn't believe it is that there was nothing in 
          our family history about Slavs, Ukraine or swamps. Growing up, I never 
          once heard the word ‘Slav' or its derivatives. Our family and relatives 
          were village people. All I ever heard was "Niesme Makedonsi", which 
          means "We are Macedonians". That was it. The first time I remember hearing 
          the world "Slav" was when I was in my early 30s and had just developed 
          an interest in Macedonian affairs. I came upon it in my reading, where 
          suddenly almost every Greek and some western academics were so keen 
          for me to see myself as a ‘Slav' that I felt it was being forced upon 
          me. As I had not come across this alternative history and identity before, 
          I didn't know what it was or anything about the huge amount of historical 
          and propaganda baggage it came with. Perhaps a bit like how the body 
          can reject a transplanted organ, my identity rejected something that 
          was foreign and seemed alien. 
        I'm lucky I did, because I have now done a DNA test that shows my instinct 
          was right. 
        Now in my late 50s, I recently did a DNA test to found out what it 
          could tell me about my origins. I did a Y-DNA test and an mtDNA test. 
          The Y-DNA test is for the Y chromosome that is passed from father to 
          son to son and so on along the paternal line. The testing agency says 
          that sections on the Y chromosome determine the male's haplogroup, the 
          origins of his ancestors and their path as they migrated around the 
          world. The mtDNA test examines the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) that is 
          passed down from mother to children. It traces the migration path of 
          your maternal line, your mother's mother's mother and so on. 
        In their detail, the results were far more than I expected. Yet in 
          their conclusions they confirmed my belief, based on common sense, that 
          the Macedonians and other peoples of the Balkans are a mixture of the 
          many peoples who have lived there. The results said I am 100 per cent 
          European. I am 79 per cent from Southern Europe – 61 per cent from the 
          Balkans, 15 per cent from the Italian Peninsula and 3 per cent from 
          Malta; I am 12 per cent from Eastern Europe – 6 per cent Magyar (Hungary 
          and the border regions of its neighbours) and 6 per cent West Slavic 
          (Poland and Slovakia and the border regions of their neighbours); and 
          9 per cent from Scandinavia. 
        Being 61 per cent from the Balkans means I am a native of the Balkans. 
          The DNA testing firm says the Balkans means the area from Slovenia, 
          Croatia and Romania in the north to Greece in the south. It includes 
          Macedonia. 
        If my forebears had been part of a Slav migration then I should have 
          a much higher percentage of Eastern European than 12 per cent. And if 
          the Greek government is right then I would have registered 100 per cent 
          ancestry from Eastern Europe. But I didn't. Science says I am only 12 
          per cent East European. Science says I am six and a half times more 
          Southern European than Eastern European, and that I am more Italian 
          than Eastern European. Science also says I am 9 per cent Scandinavian. 
          But that doesn't get a mention in Greek propaganda. 
        And there is more to the story. The testing firm says "Present day 
          populations in the Southeast Europe cluster show some of the highest 
          rates of genetic relatedness to the second wave of migration into Europe 
          roughly 11,000 years ago." 
        What's that? 11,000 years ago? That right. And it looks like I could 
          be related to them. Thanks to science, I now have a third alternative 
          identity: not a Greek who pretends to be a direct descendant of the 
          ancient Greeks, not a Slav from a swamp whose forbears arrived in the 
          Balkans 1,400 years ago, but a Macedonian whose forbears arrived in 
          the Balkans possibly 11,000 years ago. 
        Let's think about what that means. We don't know exactly when my father's 
          forebear arrived but if we assume it was about 11,000 years ago, that 
          would be around 440 generations ago if the average is 25 years per generation 
          and 550 generations ago if the average is 20 years per generation. These 
          generations are not unlikely given the early marriages and the lack 
          of contraception in those times. 
        And these generations didn't keep still. Depending on how they moved 
          about, 500 or so generations is enough time for my 500 times great grandfather 
          and me to have relatives who are not just Macedonian but also Greek, 
          Albanian, Serbian, Bulgarian, Croatian and every other nationality in 
          the Balkans and much of the rest of Europe to boot. It is so many generations 
          that these relatives could have spread that far and wide even before 
          the start of the classical period. It makes a mockery of the simplistic 
          Greek position. 
        Even more laughable is that Greek historians say the Greeks arrived 
          in Greece between 4,100 and 3,650 years ago. It will be interesting 
          to see what genetics says, but meanwhile if the Greek historians are 
          right then it is the Greeks who are the newcomers, not me. And on their 
          principle of ownership to the first on the scene, then Greece belongs 
          to me and my genetic kin, not them. 
        Unlike the Greek propaganda, science also gives me reason to be proud 
          of my ancestors. The Y-DNA test said my paternal haplogroup is E-M35. 
          I did an internet search and found numerous scientific papers that discuss 
          the relationship between E-M35 migrants and the arrival of neolithic 
          languages, agriculture and technologies from the Middle East into the 
          Balkans and Europe. 
        One paper, titled "Y Haplogroups, Archaeological Cultures and Language 
          Families: a Review of the Possibility of Multidisciplinary Comparisons 
          Using the Case of E-M35" by Andrew Lancaster (Journal of Genetic Genealogy, 
          2009) was illuminating. It says: 
        "As shall be shown, there are obvious reasons for considering whether 
          Y Haplogroup E-M35 male lineages may have been present amongst peoples 
          who spread the earliest Afroasiatic languages as well as the earliest 
          technologies associated with farming and pastoralism in the Middle East, 
          Africa and Europe. This has also been noted in DNA surveys of the last 
          decade. Initially, what was noted was a seeming link to the European 
          Neolithic. 
        "Semino et al. (2000) proposed that in Europe, haplogroup "Eu4" or 
          "Ht-4", equivalent to E-M35, represented "the male contribution of a 
          demic diffusion of farmers from the Middle East to Europe". 
        "King and Underhill (2002) went further and showed an association between 
          the distribution of these E-M35 lineages and the distribution of findings 
          of Neolithic painted pottery and figurines, again focussing on diffusion 
          from the Middle East into South-eastern Europe." 
        These researchers have started to sketch out what these early men who 
          carried the E-M35 variation were like as people. Not only were they 
          travelers and migrants, they helped to spread language, agriculture 
          and technology around Africa, the Middle East, the Balkans and Europe. 
        
        That sure beats the modern Greeks' story of Slav swamp dwellers stealing 
          supposedly Greek history as if they had nothing better to do in life. 
        
        The mtDNA test said my haplogroup is H15b, which is part of the mitochondrial 
          haplogroup H. World Heritage Encyclopedia says "Several independent 
          studies conclude that haplogroup H probably evolved in West Asia c. 
          25,000 years ago. It was carried to Europe by migrations c. 20-25,000 
          years ago, and spread with population of the southwest of the continent." 
          The company that did my DNA test says H now has a significant presence 
          throughout Europe and accounts for between 30 and 50 per cent of the 
          population of Western Europe. So it's a big club. 
        Within the club, H15 is unlikely to be from Europe, and is an uncommon 
          branch found at low frequencies in Europe and the Near East. 
        The branch H15b is not well researched at all. The haplogroup.org web 
          site says H15b is much younger than the beginning of the last ice age. 
          "The age of H15b and its spread from the Middle East to Europe may link 
          it to the spread of farming in the late Neolithic. It could also have 
          come to Europe with later migrations in the Bronze Age." It says "The 
          woman who founded this line lived between 2,200 and 8,800 years ago 
          (Behar et al 2012b)." In scientific papers, people with H15b have been 
          studied with "diverse maternal origins in Europe and the Middle East. 
          In the Middle East, results come from Turkey, Iran, and Lebanon. In 
          Europe, they come from Greece, Italy, and Denmark. Further, there are 
          Americans in the United States with European origins." So as yet there 
          is nothing definite to report. Except we can say that all the countries 
          mentioned above are a long way from Eastern Europe. 
        Each of us has four grandparents. So far I have discussed the DNA results 
          of two of mine, my father's father's paternal line and my mother's mother's 
          maternal line. However, obtaining mtDNA results for my father's mother 
          and Y-DNA results for my mother's father is more difficult as I would 
          need to ask the appropriate cousins to do the tests. But I do not expect 
          the results to be much different. This is because my heritage is 100 
          per cent European and 79 per cent Southern European. Those numbers indicate 
          my father's mother's line and my mother's father's line were also European. 
          Still to be explained are the 15 per cent Italian, 9 per cent Scandinavian, 
          6 per cent Magyar, 6 per cent West Slavic, and 3 per cent Maltese parts 
          of me. Since these numbers are relatively small, the likely answers 
          are the occasional inter-ethnic marriage and or marriage to someone 
          with a different mixed ancestry. 
        The results of the DNA tests put me in a difficult intellectual and 
          moral dilemma. Who do I believe? Should I believe modern science with 
          its many thousands of highly trained PhDs and specialists, or should 
          I believe a bunch of Balkan Johnnies-come-lately who act as if they 
          are 100 per cent descended from the ancient Greeks and who have been 
          shamelessly pumping out nationalist propaganda for over 100 years? Yes, 
          that is a hard one. 
        The DNA tests have opened a lot of new questions, but they have also 
          given me a much stronger sense of certainty about who I am and where 
          I come from. They have given me a much stronger sense of my Macedonian 
          identity and heritage. They have also strengthened my European identity 
          and my world identity. They have widened my appreciation for other nationalities, 
          especially in the Balkans and Europe where nationalism can be dangerously 
          strong. At a deeper level I can see that we are more related and more 
          connected than I have so far understood. I see better than ever that 
          I have thousands of distant genetic relatives throughout the Balkans, 
          including all of Macedonia's neighbors with whom there has been so much 
          modern political history. And I better understand that I have an untold 
          number of genetic relatives around the world. At any time I can log 
          in to the testing company's database and see the names of many hundreds 
          of these relatives. Many have provided their email addresses if I want 
          to make contact. And yes, a good number are in Macedonia and a good 
          number are in Greece. 
        What these genetic results show is the shallowness and futility of 
          Greek government propaganda and the needless nature of Balkan nationalism. 
        
        Postscript: In March 2021 the DNA company that did my analysis said 
          it had improved the science and methodology it uses to calculate people's 
          geographic origins and had updated its database to give people a more 
          precise breakdown of their geographic percentages. This changed my percentages. 
          The original version of this article said "I am 90 per cent European 
          and 11 per cent Middle Eastern from Asia Minor (the extra 1 per cent 
          is simply rounding.) My European part comprises 66 per cent Southeastern 
          European, 15 per cent East European and 9 per cent West and Central 
          European." My updated percentages are as stated in the amended article: 
          "I am 100 per cent European. I am 79 per cent from Southern Europe – 
          61 per cent from the Balkans, 15 per cent from the Italian Peninsula 
          and 3 per cent from Malta; I am 12 per cent from Eastern Europe – 6 
          per cent Magyar (Hungary and the border regions of its neighbours) and 
          6 per cent West Slavic (Poland and Slovakia and the border regions of 
          their neighbours); and 9 per cent from Scandinavia." 
        Copyright 2017 
        Source: www.pollitecon.com